5. | Barbara Dorthea Jensine Olsen blev født den 24 apr. 1833 i Budolphi, Aalborg, Aalborg, Denmark,; blev døbt den 23 jun. 1833 i Budolfi, Ålborg, Denmark; døde den 19 aug. 1900 i Logan, Cache, Utah, USA; blev begravet den 22 aug. 1900 i Logan Cemetery, Logan, Cache, Utah, USA. Andre Begivenheder og Egenskaber:
- FSID: KWJZ-3YL
- Konfirmation: 1847, Budolfi, Ålborg, Danmark
- Indvandring: 5 okt. 1854, Utah, USA
Notater:
King of Denmark relationship is still believed by members of this family so please do not delete.
It adds to the stories that some family members believe. Leave the history attached to Barbara Olsen.
Description
DO NOT DELETE THE HISTORY OF THE CONNECTION TO THE kING OF DENMARK
A Mormon Pioneer.
Name: Barbara Jensine Dorthea Olsen Larsen
Event Type Immigration
Event Date-05 Oct 1854
Event Place Utah, United States
GenderFemale
Birth Date - 24 Apr 1833
Departure - Date-15 Jun 1854
Death Date-19 Aug 1900
Pioneer Company- Hans Peter Olsen Company
Barbara's younger brothers Christopher Marinus and Gideon Gudi Elias OLSEN also pioneered to Utah.
BRIEF HISTORY
Birth record of Barbara Olsen (not Barbara Jensine Dorothea Olesen) is how the birth record was recorded. She was born in Aalborg, which is not near Copenhagen. All the census records from Aalborg in 1834, 1840, 1845, 1850 reveals that she lived at home with her parents Jens Olsen & Maria Berg. Her last name was listed as Olsen instead of Olesen. Barbara did not live in the home of the King of Denmark for the first 8 years of her life as family myths indicated. The location and the parish records give the evidence that she was
not fathered by the King of Denmark as the stories were passed down by family members.
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BIRTH AND CHILDHOOD-Census records in Denmark clearly shows that Barbara lived with her parents, Jens Olsen & Marie Jensena Dorthea Berg during all her young life as a child; when 1, 6, 12, & 16 years of age & did not live in the so called young future King of Denmark's Home in Copenhagen, as family legend told the story. Her birth record shows her father's name as Jen Olsen. It is doubtful that the so called King of Denmark fathered Barbara. She did not live in the home of the futures King of Denmark for the first 8 years of her life. Look at the source. However, some family members will continue to believe the story that has been passed down for many many years. Their sources are sketchy passed down, as he said & she said. No one has found accurate records.
Less --- STOP DELETING THIS ACCURATE SOURCE FOUND BY A DANISH RESEARCHER, who lived in Denmark & read Danish records. She did not believe that a baby born in Aalborg would be taken away from her mother & then sent to Copenhagen, where the king lived which is far away from Aalborg, Denmark. Check the map. She knows the culture. Also why would they send the mother away to give birth to this baby, because of the embarrassment, & then bring her back to the palace? Wouldn't they then have to explain who this child was & why she was in the palace. Many things about this story is unbelievable.
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_____________It seems like much more of a tenuous leap to me to say that because a Danish researcher speaks the language and could not find any census records that the claim of an 1800's, strong LDS, pioneer woman told a few members of her family that she was the illegitimate child of a king must be false. Christian's claim to the throne depended upon his marriage to Luise of Hesse Kassel who's brother renounced any claim he might have to the throne, thus passing legitimacy to her. Any record of an illegitimate child would obviously be deleted to prevent Luise from finding out. Further, how do you account for first hand accounts of the ornate snuff box that contained documents of Dorthea's parentage? In addition, how would a commoner gain permission to marry in the Church of the Round, as she did, and why were so many important people at her christening? I think it is completely fine for you to accept the version of history that you do, but for those of us who strongly believe otherwise, it is frustrating when our lineage is blocked. Can't we share?
Modified
6 May 2018 by BellAmandaN_____________
At age 6 yrs she was with her parents. See below in 1840 census.
It is not blocked, you can still see the connection to the king. Yes, you can share your beliefs that was so ingrained in you at a young age, as it was in other members of the family. The family story is very interesting indicating that we all came from the King of Denmark, but even the locations does not make sense. Let us repeat what is written above. It is not realistic to think that even a king would take a child away from her mom to be raised far away in Copenhagen, which is not even near Aalborg, where it is recorded that she was born. This Danish researcher did not believe that this story could be true. She lived in Denmark & knows the culture. We will all believe as we choose & some day we will know the truth. Did anyone really see the ornate snuff box & what it contained? We then can ask how did this family story really begin? However, it does not really matter as long as temple ordinances are completed. Barbara was able to be sealed to her husband in the President of the LDS Church's office before the Endowment House and Salt Lake Temple was finished.
Can you please share the report from the researcher with all of us? I would be very interested in contacting them and finding out some more information about the christening and marriage circumstances.
The sources of the researcher & the census records are listed.
Close Because a Danish researcher can speak the language and said so seems far less of an accurate source than a pioneer woman in the 1800's actually telling (a select few) that she was illegitimate. Edit|Delete Note Census records in Denmark clearly shows that Barbara lived with her parents, Jens Olsen & Marie Jensena Dorthea Berg during all her young life as a child; when 1, 6, 12, & 16 years of age & did not live in the so called young future King of Denmark's Home in Copenhagen, as family legend told the story. Her birth record shows her father's name as Jen Olsen. Doubt the so called King of Denmark fathered Barbara. She did not live in the home of the futures King of Denmark for the first 8 years. Look at the source. However, some family members will continue to believe the story that has been passed down for many many years. Their sources are sketchy passed down as he said & she said. No one found that so called box. STOP DELETING THIS ACCURATE SOURCE FOUND BY A DANISH RESEARCHER, who lived in Denmark and could read Danish records. It seems like much more of a tenuous leap to me to say that because a Danish researcher speaks the language and could not find any census records that the claim of an 1800's, strong LDS, pioneer woman told a few members of her family that she was the illegitimate child of a king must be false. Christian's claim to the throne depended upon his marriage to Luise of Hesse Kassel who's brother renounced any claim he might have to the throne, thus passing legitimacy to her. Any record of an illegitimate child would obviously be deleted to prevent Luise from finding out. Further, how do you account for first hand accounts of the ornate snuff box that contained documents of Dorthea's parentage? In addition, how would a commoner gain permission to marry in the Church of the Round, as she did, and why were so many important people at her christening? I think it is completely fine for you to accept the version of history that you do, but
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